Doug, yeah thats the one, it's about 1/32 maybe a touch more, and thats a size 6 vmc hook, it's a good head for a smaller jig, but it's not a true redman head in that it is flattened quite a bit, can't see that looking at it from the side view. I have some 1/4" alloy steel pins about 7/8" long that would make a great blank for a heavier one, the kiptail is really bouyant, you can see that if you drop it in a swimming pool, even with a 1/16 it drops slow, of course the more bulk you use in the body, with the hair the more bouyant it is and the thicker the threadneck is. I am waiting to see jiggerjohns freinds jigs also, may have to tie up some of those too. gotta have a head for every good fish catching jig!