Doug, there are some pics of the orange and yellow kiptail on page 53, post 521, this is the one I was talking about, he fishes it in stained water at his favorite lake, this style color combo is just another way to get some contrast, it has orange hair with yellow streaked down the sides, the real difference is seen from below by the fish, if ya look at it this way, the orange goes from head to tail, with yellow on the outside edges of the hair framing the orange, he has all the ones I tied, but I have enough orange to tie a few more. this guy doesn't tie but he is a very successful crappie fisherman and he requested this type of color combo, not just the colors themselves but the way they are laid on the jig, because he likes this pattern with an all white jig too, with red streaked down the sides, maybe in the next few days I can tie a few in different colors and take a couple pics, going to bed now, gotta work tonite.