Doug, the VMC 9147 is a fine hook for sure, all the versions of it are excellent, bronze, gold and BN, the BN version has the premium extra sharp cone shaped point, and the bronze and gold have the old school point which is longer and not quite as sharp as the BN's point, now to make this more confusing I do have some size 6 gold VMC's with the premium point but the last time I ordered them I got the old school point, which is what they call a cut point, but non the less, the old school cut points on the VMC 9147's are deadly and plenty sharp, I actually wish I could get their black nickel in the cut point as it has a larger barb. I have only been working and worrying about the stuff around the house that needs working on, so have not even poured any of those eagle claw BP hooks, and haven't been fishing either, just tying a few here and there. that black nickel VMC is a fine hook but it seems they are not real easy to find.