Bucho
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Hawnjigs said:Here at ground zero, in a nutshell, one side perpetually spews lies and "alternate facts", and the other relentlessly debunks them. What is a "pseudo-liberal" out your way?
I'd appreciate your commenting on my inquiry here:
http://www.jigcraft.com/jigcraft/showthread.php?tid=11001
I was ignoring the Bucko-with-a-k- thread so please forgive me I didn´t notice your political questions.
If you must know... Its a German thing, my personal interpretation for what I consider highly irrational behavior, "libtarded" beyond American imagination.
I am a very independend thinker and so un-fashist that I get uncomfortable if more than 5 people share the same opinion, even if it is my own. That is actually an issue when I give workshops, I get uncomfortable when I realize I have managed to create social dynamics. However, I keep getting into arguments with people from the left and I wonder why. At first they get triggered by things I say that rub them the wrong way, but when they realize I am listening to them and are not "one of those", they typically apologize and point out a personal history that involves a familiar background that reminded me of this video.
If you have stood up against and eventually had to argue with such guilt-laden folks at the kitchen table for decades, several things will happen:
1. you will anticipate that there are some people that simply cannot be talked sense into but need to be dealt with differently. You will distinguish the good, the bad and the ugly so to speak. The good ones which can be taken seriously, the ugly (who are too dumb to apreciate your opinion) who need to be manipulated("educated") and the bad which need to be tricked into showing their true colors and then put away - where ever that may be.
2. you will be overly sensitive bordering to paranoia against anyone that seems to fear-monger the idea of hordes of foreigners molesting women as well as all sorts of justifications of rightwing thinking.
3. you will perceive the idea of mobilizing the mayority of the population via combustion engine technologie as a wrong developement that needs to be reversed. Remember that Henry Ford, who employed exclusively caucasians and granted them textbook social bennies, received the highest order of the nazi regime who promised laborers the "people`s car", the Volkswagen. The Greens don`t fight the car´s emission or footprint, they fight the idea of the car in every garage, or worse, in public parking spaces. They sabotage green fuel in favor of electric engines, knowing that enough plugholes will always be a problem in cities.
More problematically, being raised in such family, you will take over underlying assumptions without questioning them.
One is the idea that the fight against an evil ideology would justify otherwise inaccapteble measures. (1:06 : "we did not fight (russian) people, we fought the Bolshewism that was misleading them..).
Another is that you are so occupied with condamming the idea of fighting and exploiting subhumans rather than supporting and integrating them, that subconsciously you still consider them inferior. I watched an interview on al jazeera the other day about the unrests in Chemnitz which were triggered by an imigrant stabbing a resident. A young German "fashism expert" called that an "accident" (as with a non-able to blame animal or kid), not an incident (as with a fully responsible human being). I would not have noticed such minor language flaw if it would not examplify their attitude towards non-German migrants.
Long story short, pseudo-liberals push my buttons because they are mirrowing the very people they dispite and sport a distinct "the-bad guys are all over there"- attitude that keeps them comfortably save from having to tackle their own issues. As a result, there are certain things that you literally can`t speak of here without being cut even by "normal" people who don`t want to get caught in the middle - which in itself is already considered a problematic political statement.
Does that make sense to you?