I am in the process of upgrading to a new vise and still trying to decide the direction I want to go. First question is if your have a true rotary vise, how often do you use the rotary feature. I tried a couple different ones today and used the rotary to wrap the hook then would forget about when tying in materials. Bringing up my question, Does the rotary feature get used a lot
Question for owners of true rotary vises.
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Radtexan
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Kurt I know I'm one of the few here. I have a rotary but have it set to NOT turn. I don't use the feature. I would rather spin or wrap the old fashion way.
Jay Wirth
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For tying jigs I only use the rotary ability when I am adding head cement to the threads.
plateboater
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Have dyna-king......rotary used for chenille and applying head cement (every time). Rotate pending on jig to the sides to make sure material is laying correct. Rotate to confirm threads are good on some style jigs for presentation purposes. Use it quite a bit.
LedHed
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Have both in the Regal - tru and rotating. Never use the thru and hardly ever rotate..
I taught myself to tye on an import - using the head and barrel for a "hand rest". With the tru in line vise the jaws are separate and away from the vise body (except for Nor-vise & Regal tru-rotary). I still hold the hook (while it's in the jaws, when adding materials that I have to crank down on. The jaws can hold the hook fine - I don't want the shaft, of the hook, to be bending back and forth. The friction and heat will change the temper of the hook.
For me - tying flies is a Lot more "gentler". I don't pull or crank down like when I'm tying jigs. On the other hand - I've watched one of the most prolific tyers that I know (JJ) whip out the jigs on a Renzetti Traveler.
I taught myself to tye on an import - using the head and barrel for a "hand rest". With the tru in line vise the jaws are separate and away from the vise body (except for Nor-vise & Regal tru-rotary). I still hold the hook (while it's in the jaws, when adding materials that I have to crank down on. The jaws can hold the hook fine - I don't want the shaft, of the hook, to be bending back and forth. The friction and heat will change the temper of the hook.
For me - tying flies is a Lot more "gentler". I don't pull or crank down like when I'm tying jigs. On the other hand - I've watched one of the most prolific tyers that I know (JJ) whip out the jigs on a Renzetti Traveler.
Pup
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Yes, I use the rotary feature a lot.
As a hair jig tyer, I use it to:
I'm with RT on chenille wraps, ribbing, and the like. Rotating the vise jaws to wrap materials is less precise and efficient for me actually... So, I just use it, in this instance, to check.
As a hair jig tyer, I use it to:
- Add hair to hook shank and collar.
- Apply sealer to thread at collar.
- Check wraps at collar for proper lay and alignment.
- Check to see that materials (e.g. legs and tails) are in line.
I'm with RT on chenille wraps, ribbing, and the like. Rotating the vise jaws to wrap materials is less precise and efficient for me actually... So, I just use it, in this instance, to check.
BucktailJiger
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Regal Medallion .
360 rotation axis to check blind side and 220 articulate up and down .
That's all ya need in my opinion .
Had 2 true rotarys Renzetti and Peak , didn't like um , sold um .
Went back to my Regals and haven't looked back .
360 rotation axis to check blind side and 220 articulate up and down .
That's all ya need in my opinion .
Had 2 true rotarys Renzetti and Peak , didn't like um , sold um .
Went back to my Regals and haven't looked back .
My vise is a Griffin Odyssey Cam and spin mine quite a bit.
- Fully spin it for adding head cement, chenille, palmered hackle and dubbing twists.... as well as for trimming up against the head with a razor when using kip, bucktail or craft fur/hair.
- Spin it in increments (quarter or half turns) for tying materials in specific spots or making sure materials are spread out evenly. I have the rotation tension tightened down kind of stiff so i can flip it over or 1/4th of the way and it will hold steady.
I can tie on a stationary vise...... but like the ability to fully rotate and not worry about flipping back and forth on a non-360°.
- Fully spin it for adding head cement, chenille, palmered hackle and dubbing twists.... as well as for trimming up against the head with a razor when using kip, bucktail or craft fur/hair.
- Spin it in increments (quarter or half turns) for tying materials in specific spots or making sure materials are spread out evenly. I have the rotation tension tightened down kind of stiff so i can flip it over or 1/4th of the way and it will hold steady.
I can tie on a stationary vise...... but like the ability to fully rotate and not worry about flipping back and forth on a non-360°.
Jig Man
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Yes, I use it a bunch...I haven't tyed on my stationary vice since I purchased my rotary... Hope I don't have too!
I tie on an Anvil Apex vice. I'm told it's not a true rotary head, but compared to the hook holder for a sharpener and the elcheapo's from China I use to, the head does rotate & I use the rotating feature allot for all of the uses listed in this thread. The literature states that "The Apex features in line rotation with an easy to use rotary handle for 360 degree fly inspection. "
I've used this vice to tie jigs on hooks ranging from a size 4 to a 4/0 with no problems. It was made in the US, fit my budget, and built like a tank.
http://www.fishusa.com/product/Anvil-Apex-Fly-Tying-Vise
I've used this vice to tie jigs on hooks ranging from a size 4 to a 4/0 with no problems. It was made in the US, fit my budget, and built like a tank.
http://www.fishusa.com/product/Anvil-Apex-Fly-Tying-Vise
ridgeliner
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There are a lot of vises that do a great job holding a hook. If you think that is all a vise should do....... don't waste your money on a rotary vise. A rotary vise can do a lot more. I've had mine for over 10 years now. I would never go back. I wrap chenille, ribbing, palmer hackle etc. using the rotary feature.
Lost Pole
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Well......now that I have used mine for about a month I guess I can chime in.
I like it a lot!
Haven't used it in rotation much other than to double check my thread wraps but it sho is nice to be able to do.
Best thing is the jaws.
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I like it a lot!
Haven't used it in rotation much other than to double check my thread wraps but it sho is nice to be able to do.
Best thing is the jaws.
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Ron Don
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I use it wrapping chenille the most.
JUNGLEJIM1
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I use the rotary feature a lot for wrapping chenille and hackle. It's a lot faster tying with the full rotary than the old way and if the wraps aren't exactly how you want it just spin it in reverse and start again.
Sounds like its the way I want to go, now to save up another chunk of cash (had to buy tires for my fishing rig) BTW, if you know who littered the road with a couple hundred beer bottles during the snow fall, thank them for me. 4 new tires last fall ate my saved allowance and 5 months later did the same thing.