FYI- That Eagle Claw EL111BP is a wicked sharp hook and very stout!! I use it for flipping jigs and football heads. I made a guy made at me with that hook, he didn't talk to me for a year but now he has overcome his anger and thanked me for saving him money. The person was getting me to make him flipping jigs and he really liked them but he insisted only on Gamakatsu hooks so when I got a hundred of these 111BP hooks to try I made him a jig, free of charge BTW, and gave it to him to try and told him it was a new Gammy hook. To make this story shorter I'll just say he loved it, never lost a fish and told me that I now had to make all his jigs with that hook and then I told him it was an Eagle Claw, well he called every name in the book but has now come around and enjoys the money he saves on his jigs. That was the hook that got me interested in EC again. To be honest it is different than the 5304, the EC is an EWG hook, the Owner deep throat is a regualr gap hook with a deep gap that has superior holding power and the cutting point is just sick sharp. Hookup, if you want to make a round head jig using that hook Barlow just got the new trokar molds from do-it, it is a shaky head mold that will use the 5304 and you can pour it without the sping lock, it just leaves a little tiny bump, the down side is it won't be weedless unless you modify the mold.